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	<description>Asperger's Syndrome from the point of view of a self-diagnosed adult</description>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
		<link>http://www.thatexplainseverything.com/news/misguided-lobbying/#comment-279</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 20:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I was trying to say was that if families of ASD children have a higher rate of immune problems like allergies or autoimmune illnesses, then maybe the child is more likely to have some kind of reaction to the vaccine, and then because they see the reaction, they link it to the autism, IYSWIM. i.e. the child was already autistic, and then also had an allergic reaction to the vaccine. Perhaps that scenario is possible?

I also read that allergies and asthma have increased, but I don&#039;t know how certain that information is. 

After reading your post this morning I visited a cure website, and I was interested that they linked to a video that claims vaccines and mercury are not to blame. This doctor mentions a study done looking at the brains of dead autistic children (died in accidents) and says they looked like the brains of people with Parkinson&#039;s or Alzheimers. http://www.tarzanacme.com/video.asp?VidID=notautism

I think I can understand your desire to avoid this topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I was trying to say was that if families of ASD children have a higher rate of immune problems like allergies or autoimmune illnesses, then maybe the child is more likely to have some kind of reaction to the vaccine, and then because they see the reaction, they link it to the autism, IYSWIM. i.e. the child was already autistic, and then also had an allergic reaction to the vaccine. Perhaps that scenario is possible?</p>
<p>I also read that allergies and asthma have increased, but I don&#8217;t know how certain that information is. </p>
<p>After reading your post this morning I visited a cure website, and I was interested that they linked to a video that claims vaccines and mercury are not to blame. This doctor mentions a study done looking at the brains of dead autistic children (died in accidents) and says they looked like the brains of people with Parkinson&#8217;s or Alzheimers. <a href="http://www.tarzanacme.com/video.asp?VidID=notautism" rel="nofollow">http://www.tarzanacme.com/video.asp?VidID=notautism</a></p>
<p>I think I can understand your desire to avoid this topic.</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 17:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I did think you probably knew, but I couldn&#039;t help myself!

Sorry I don&#039;t have a specific link about autism and immune disorders/allergies, I just seem to have heard it a lot. I did find this http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=are-immune-system-molecules-build-brains&amp;sc=rss 

I have read there are a lot of anecdotes from parents about autism improving when the child has a fever. http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1889436,00.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I did think you probably knew, but I couldn&#8217;t help myself!</p>
<p>Sorry I don&#8217;t have a specific link about autism and immune disorders/allergies, I just seem to have heard it a lot. I did find this <a href="http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=are-immune-system-molecules-build-brains&amp;sc=rss" rel="nofollow">http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=are-immune-system-molecules-build-brains&amp;sc=rss</a> </p>
<p>I have read there are a lot of anecdotes from parents about autism improving when the child has a fever. <a href="http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1889436,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1889436,00.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.thatexplainseverything.com/news/misguided-lobbying/#comment-276</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 10:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I&#039;m honest, I&#039;m surprised it&#039;s taken this long for someone this long to pull me up on this comment. I knew even when I was writing it that I couldn&#039;t really justify it in pure logic.

You are right Anna, chances are that even if it was caused by a vaccination, I would still feel that it was natural.

I see far too much evidence that it runs in families to conclude the vaccines are involved, however. And what about those children that Dr Asperger described in the early 1940s? I still don&#039;t buy the vaccines link for one second.

Your comment about allergies intrigues me. I&#039;m going to go and do a search about it now...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I&#8217;m honest, I&#8217;m surprised it&#8217;s taken this long for someone this long to pull me up on this comment. I knew even when I was writing it that I couldn&#8217;t really justify it in pure logic.</p>
<p>You are right Anna, chances are that even if it was caused by a vaccination, I would still feel that it was natural.</p>
<p>I see far too much evidence that it runs in families to conclude the vaccines are involved, however. And what about those children that Dr Asperger described in the early 1940s? I still don&#8217;t buy the vaccines link for one second.</p>
<p>Your comment about allergies intrigues me. I&#8217;m going to go and do a search about it now&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 07:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In addition, my different ways of thinking are so deeply ingrained and natural to me that I can’t believe that they are purely a learnt behaviour, nor the effects of some vaccine gone wrong.&quot;

If they were, would you know any different?

It might not just be the age of vaccination that makes people think this way. ISTR reading that families of ASD children are much more likely to have allergies, or autoimmune illnesses, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In addition, my different ways of thinking are so deeply ingrained and natural to me that I can’t believe that they are purely a learnt behaviour, nor the effects of some vaccine gone wrong.&#8221;</p>
<p>If they were, would you know any different?</p>
<p>It might not just be the age of vaccination that makes people think this way. ISTR reading that families of ASD children are much more likely to have allergies, or autoimmune illnesses, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.thatexplainseverything.com/news/misguided-lobbying/#comment-242</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 13:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed.

I do find it easier than you to see how someone without a scientific background could be taken in by claims such as thiomerisol causing autism.

Look how uneducated people have reacted over the years to other ideas such as mercury amalgam tooth fillings. I&#039;ve read new age &#039;facts&#039; about how salt is bad because it contains chlorine. Really.

Viruses cause the flu. Germs get spread through coughs and sneezes. Vaccinations mean that you are injecting a bit of the disease into the recipient. The MMR contains a bit of three diseases and we inject it into kids who are just over a year old. Can their immune systems take it?
Yes, but it&#039;s easy to see how parents could be worried about this, after all, it all sounds very scary.

Add to that they adults start to notice problems with the development of their autistic children in the months after the MMR is given, and I for one can see how they blame the vaccine and themselves for the condition.

...and I&#039;m rambling a bit, so I&#039;ll stop.

p.s. - looks like people are fighting back against Jenny McCarthy - see &lt;a href=&quot;http://bit.ly/MUqlJ&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed.</p>
<p>I do find it easier than you to see how someone without a scientific background could be taken in by claims such as thiomerisol causing autism.</p>
<p>Look how uneducated people have reacted over the years to other ideas such as mercury amalgam tooth fillings. I&#8217;ve read new age &#8216;facts&#8217; about how salt is bad because it contains chlorine. Really.</p>
<p>Viruses cause the flu. Germs get spread through coughs and sneezes. Vaccinations mean that you are injecting a bit of the disease into the recipient. The MMR contains a bit of three diseases and we inject it into kids who are just over a year old. Can their immune systems take it?<br />
Yes, but it&#8217;s easy to see how parents could be worried about this, after all, it all sounds very scary.</p>
<p>Add to that they adults start to notice problems with the development of their autistic children in the months after the MMR is given, and I for one can see how they blame the vaccine and themselves for the condition.</p>
<p>&#8230;and I&#8217;m rambling a bit, so I&#8217;ll stop.</p>
<p>p.s. &#8211; looks like people are fighting back against Jenny McCarthy &#8211; see <a href="http://bit.ly/MUqlJ" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 13:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Diagnosed at age 2? I really can&#039;t see how that could be possible. I think it&#039;d be difficult to be sure even with a five year old, unless they were profoundly affected.

It&#039;s really sad that so much well-meaning but misguided effort is being channelled in an unhelpful direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Diagnosed at age 2? I really can&#8217;t see how that could be possible. I think it&#8217;d be difficult to be sure even with a five year old, unless they were profoundly affected.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s really sad that so much well-meaning but misguided effort is being channelled in an unhelpful direction.</p>
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		<title>By: AJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 05:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This movement has got to be one of the worst things to happen to the human race in the past 100 years. Imagine if we still lived with polio, or small pox. These diseases have virtually been eliminated. Once again people have too few things to worry about that a blatant internet lie has grown into fear about the very things that protect us all as a community. When I was a kid (30 odd years ago) I never heard of anyone getting measles. Now we have outbreaks. And I am sorry, if Jenny McCartney&#039;s kid is now supposedly cured of autism, he never had it to begin with.

If we ever do have a serious outbreak of something that a vaccine becomes available for I hope Jenny and Jim stick to their guns and don&#039;t get it.

Please let me apologise if this seems a harsh view point, but this has bothered me for a long time. I don&#039;t understand how some people refuse to listen to the plain and simple facts of this matter. There is no debate. ASD is not caused by thiomerisol in vaccines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This movement has got to be one of the worst things to happen to the human race in the past 100 years. Imagine if we still lived with polio, or small pox. These diseases have virtually been eliminated. Once again people have too few things to worry about that a blatant internet lie has grown into fear about the very things that protect us all as a community. When I was a kid (30 odd years ago) I never heard of anyone getting measles. Now we have outbreaks. And I am sorry, if Jenny McCartney&#8217;s kid is now supposedly cured of autism, he never had it to begin with.</p>
<p>If we ever do have a serious outbreak of something that a vaccine becomes available for I hope Jenny and Jim stick to their guns and don&#8217;t get it.</p>
<p>Please let me apologise if this seems a harsh view point, but this has bothered me for a long time. I don&#8217;t understand how some people refuse to listen to the plain and simple facts of this matter. There is no debate. ASD is not caused by thiomerisol in vaccines.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 18:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James, I agree with you 100%. The idea that autism is a disease that needs to be cured is insulting and short-sighted. I have no problem with treatment to help autistic people, especially those on the severe end of the spectrum, but for neuro-typical people to confuse effective treatment with a cure is to be very mind-blind, if you ask me.

On Friday, I saw a report by an American researcher that claims that intensive behavioral therapy can cure autism in 10-15% of autistic children, if the therapy is begun before the age of 7. The researcher claims to have studied children who were &quot;definitely autistic at age 2&quot; and who are &quot;definitely not autistic&quot; at age 9.

Why? Because they learned to make eye contact and be sociable. They got more flexible. They don&#039;t get frustrated as easily. They get along with their peers. 

Well, guess what? Me too. Really! I even have friends and everything. Does that mean I don&#039;t have Asperger&#039;s? Give me a slight break.

Thanks for this post, James. It&#039;s a great one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, I agree with you 100%. The idea that autism is a disease that needs to be cured is insulting and short-sighted. I have no problem with treatment to help autistic people, especially those on the severe end of the spectrum, but for neuro-typical people to confuse effective treatment with a cure is to be very mind-blind, if you ask me.</p>
<p>On Friday, I saw a report by an American researcher that claims that intensive behavioral therapy can cure autism in 10-15% of autistic children, if the therapy is begun before the age of 7. The researcher claims to have studied children who were &#8220;definitely autistic at age 2&#8243; and who are &#8220;definitely not autistic&#8221; at age 9.</p>
<p>Why? Because they learned to make eye contact and be sociable. They got more flexible. They don&#8217;t get frustrated as easily. They get along with their peers. </p>
<p>Well, guess what? Me too. Really! I even have friends and everything. Does that mean I don&#8217;t have Asperger&#8217;s? Give me a slight break.</p>
<p>Thanks for this post, James. It&#8217;s a great one.</p>
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