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	<description>A personal journey to understand Asperger&#039;s Syndrome and myself</description>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.thatexplainseverything.com/experience/where-is-everyone/#comment-700</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anna,

What an interesting comment.

Because autism is a spectrum, with complete normality (whatever that is) at one end, there must be people with low degrees of difference from the norm, and also those who have some typical symptoms, but lack others.

Maybe, as you suggest, you have a some degree of difference, but not enough to warrant a diagnosis of any sort.

We are all unique, and we should celebrate that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anna,</p>
<p>What an interesting comment.</p>
<p>Because autism is a spectrum, with complete normality (whatever that is) at one end, there must be people with low degrees of difference from the norm, and also those who have some typical symptoms, but lack others.</p>
<p>Maybe, as you suggest, you have a some degree of difference, but not enough to warrant a diagnosis of any sort.</p>
<p>We are all unique, and we should celebrate that!</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 09:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading Sparrow&#039;s posts helps persuade me to the view that I do not have Asperger&#039;s. DonkeyBuster&#039;s post was to me clearly a joke. When I read this blog, or Gavin Bollard&#039;s, or Nathan K&#039;s, or John Robison&#039;s, I do see a lot that I understand and recognise, but I don&#039;t think I have the same difficulties in social communication that seem to be the core problem in Asperger&#039;s. I am a bit geeky, but to a &quot;clinically significant&quot; level? 
I look at Amanda Baggs&#039;s blog/videos, and I just don&#039;t relate to it, although IIRC she is autistic, not Asperger&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading Sparrow&#8217;s posts helps persuade me to the view that I do not have Asperger&#8217;s. DonkeyBuster&#8217;s post was to me clearly a joke. When I read this blog, or Gavin Bollard&#8217;s, or Nathan K&#8217;s, or John Robison&#8217;s, I do see a lot that I understand and recognise, but I don&#8217;t think I have the same difficulties in social communication that seem to be the core problem in Asperger&#8217;s. I am a bit geeky, but to a &#8220;clinically significant&#8221; level?<br />
I look at Amanda Baggs&#8217;s blog/videos, and I just don&#8217;t relate to it, although IIRC she is autistic, not Asperger&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.thatexplainseverything.com/experience/where-is-everyone/#comment-669</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anna,

Another top notch find, thank you.

I have added the site to my feed reader list.

Another religious person with Asperger&#039;s. I find it fascinating how many there are out there with firm religious beliefs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anna,</p>
<p>Another top notch find, thank you.</p>
<p>I have added the site to my feed reader list.</p>
<p>Another religious person with Asperger&#8217;s. I find it fascinating how many there are out there with firm religious beliefs.</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 07:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another male AS blog - Nathan K at http://landofmysojourn.wordpress.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another male AS blog &#8211; Nathan K at <a href="http://landofmysojourn.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">http://landofmysojourn.wordpress.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.thatexplainseverything.com/experience/where-is-everyone/#comment-515</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 11:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not as confident as my writing may suggest, Wild.

My style of writing is very deliberate, and intended to convey that I know what I&#039;m talking about, whilst trying to leave no room for misinterpretation. I&#039;ve written on the blog about it before - indeed the most popular article ever on the blog is about it - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thatexplainseverything.com/traits/the-aspie-style-of-writing/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&#039;The Aspie style of writing&#039;&lt;/a&gt;.

If you look back at the early articles on my blog (you can get articles by date over on the right hand side of each page) I think you might notice that my confidence in writing about my AS has grown enormously in the last seven months or so. 

At the start I felt uncomfortable writing &quot;Asperger&#039;s&quot;, and resorted to &quot;AS&quot; wherever I thought I could get away with it. I didn&#039;t use the big &quot;A&quot; word (ok, autism - there I wrote it) until quite recently.

I have become accustomed to Asperger&#039;s over the last seven months or so, mainly from my writing here. Whilst Asperger&#039;s has always been a part of me, it has taken me time to see that and to become comfortable enough to say it. I still couldn&#039;t stand up in front of people and say it, however, so I&#039;m not at the end of my journey yet.

It sounds like you are in a similar place to the one I was in in October or November last year. You&#039;ve made the leap of faith that is &quot;I have Asperger&#039;s&quot;, and now you are trying to figure out what that really means. Don&#039;t rush it. It will come in time, and life will start to feel more comfortable once more.

As I wrote in the initial posting in this thread, I find writing to be enormously helpful in expressing my thoughts - and far more easy to do that expressing thoughts and feelings verbally, even with my wife. But that too is practice. The first few articles on this blog were painful to write, and I didn&#039;t know if my writing would be good enough.

I don&#039;t know if writing works for you as well, but hey - you have a blog and your writing looks pretty good to me. Express yourself, and the complicated jumble of thoughts and emotions will start to make sense.

James</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not as confident as my writing may suggest, Wild.</p>
<p>My style of writing is very deliberate, and intended to convey that I know what I&#8217;m talking about, whilst trying to leave no room for misinterpretation. I&#8217;ve written on the blog about it before &#8211; indeed the most popular article ever on the blog is about it &#8211; <a href="http://www.thatexplainseverything.com/traits/the-aspie-style-of-writing/" rel="nofollow">&#8216;The Aspie style of writing&#8217;</a>.</p>
<p>If you look back at the early articles on my blog (you can get articles by date over on the right hand side of each page) I think you might notice that my confidence in writing about my AS has grown enormously in the last seven months or so. </p>
<p>At the start I felt uncomfortable writing &#8220;Asperger&#8217;s&#8221;, and resorted to &#8220;AS&#8221; wherever I thought I could get away with it. I didn&#8217;t use the big &#8220;A&#8221; word (ok, autism &#8211; there I wrote it) until quite recently.</p>
<p>I have become accustomed to Asperger&#8217;s over the last seven months or so, mainly from my writing here. Whilst Asperger&#8217;s has always been a part of me, it has taken me time to see that and to become comfortable enough to say it. I still couldn&#8217;t stand up in front of people and say it, however, so I&#8217;m not at the end of my journey yet.</p>
<p>It sounds like you are in a similar place to the one I was in in October or November last year. You&#8217;ve made the leap of faith that is &#8220;I have Asperger&#8217;s&#8221;, and now you are trying to figure out what that really means. Don&#8217;t rush it. It will come in time, and life will start to feel more comfortable once more.</p>
<p>As I wrote in the initial posting in this thread, I find writing to be enormously helpful in expressing my thoughts &#8211; and far more easy to do that expressing thoughts and feelings verbally, even with my wife. But that too is practice. The first few articles on this blog were painful to write, and I didn&#8217;t know if my writing would be good enough.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if writing works for you as well, but hey &#8211; you have a blog and your writing looks pretty good to me. Express yourself, and the complicated jumble of thoughts and emotions will start to make sense.</p>
<p>James</p>
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		<title>By: awildanimal</title>
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		<dc:creator>awildanimal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 11:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A couple of reasons I was unsure of my AS originally was that 1) I did get humour (or so I thought) and 2) I was able to see life from the other person&#039;s perspective (or so I thought).

1) In fact, I do get most written humour and got Donkey&#039;s joke within a second or two (The LOL and extended words gave it away for me). But I don&#039;t always get verbal humour that&#039;s for sure. 

Once, on an office tour following an interview for Database/IT guy, I was introduced to someone who was described as the former Database/IT guy. I smiled politely and made the expected noises. It never occurred to me till later that this person wasn&#039;t an employee. He was a decorator, just working in the building (and yes, he was dressed as a decorator!)

2) But also, I had trouble understanding Sparrow&#039;s reaction at first and I had to think on it long and hard. Sparrow, I think I understand now and I&#039;m sure I would&#039;ve made a similar mistake, so thank you for the extra posts and for explaining.

Donkey, I think we probably have similar problems with literal aspies but I understand also what you&#039;ve said too and my initial reaction was similar to yours.

To be honest, Sparrow and Donkey, both of you (and James for that matter) intimidate me a little. You all seem so able to express yourselves so fully and you&#039;ve all given me a lot to think about. I struggle and agonise over every word and I&#039;m still trying to understand where I am on the spectrum. But, at times like this, I find that too much talking can sometime be just that - too much. I hope that we can all understand what happened and learn from it. It IS a spectrum and we have to remember that.

Thank you all. (Now I have to go and pick my dog up from her chemo)

Wild</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of reasons I was unsure of my AS originally was that 1) I did get humour (or so I thought) and 2) I was able to see life from the other person&#8217;s perspective (or so I thought).</p>
<p>1) In fact, I do get most written humour and got Donkey&#8217;s joke within a second or two (The LOL and extended words gave it away for me). But I don&#8217;t always get verbal humour that&#8217;s for sure. </p>
<p>Once, on an office tour following an interview for Database/IT guy, I was introduced to someone who was described as the former Database/IT guy. I smiled politely and made the expected noises. It never occurred to me till later that this person wasn&#8217;t an employee. He was a decorator, just working in the building (and yes, he was dressed as a decorator!)</p>
<p>2) But also, I had trouble understanding Sparrow&#8217;s reaction at first and I had to think on it long and hard. Sparrow, I think I understand now and I&#8217;m sure I would&#8217;ve made a similar mistake, so thank you for the extra posts and for explaining.</p>
<p>Donkey, I think we probably have similar problems with literal aspies but I understand also what you&#8217;ve said too and my initial reaction was similar to yours.</p>
<p>To be honest, Sparrow and Donkey, both of you (and James for that matter) intimidate me a little. You all seem so able to express yourselves so fully and you&#8217;ve all given me a lot to think about. I struggle and agonise over every word and I&#8217;m still trying to understand where I am on the spectrum. But, at times like this, I find that too much talking can sometime be just that &#8211; too much. I hope that we can all understand what happened and learn from it. It IS a spectrum and we have to remember that.</p>
<p>Thank you all. (Now I have to go and pick my dog up from her chemo)</p>
<p>Wild</p>
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		<title>By: Sparrow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sparrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 03:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>p.s. you say our neurology is not different. It most obviously is different if you are a person who &quot;gets&quot; certain social uses of words and I am a person who does not &quot;get&quot; them. We are both aspergian but our neurology is different. Just because two people share the same diagnosis does not make their neurology identical. I was not trying to imply that you are not on the spectrum by asking you to respect my neurology. I was not implying anything by it other than exactly what I said: please respect my neurology. It differs from yours in that respect and I would like you not to treat me as deficient because of that.

Perhaps your ability to read the extra things like jokes is also a disability when you read extra implications into my words that were not there? I respect your neurology that reads things into words and I am happy to explain what I did or didn&#039;t mean if you see more meaning in my words than I put there. I would never tell you to &quot;lighten up&quot; or &quot;darken up&quot; because you add extra connotations to the things I say. Please give me the same respect when I see fewer connotations in the things you say than you have put there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>p.s. you say our neurology is not different. It most obviously is different if you are a person who &#8220;gets&#8221; certain social uses of words and I am a person who does not &#8220;get&#8221; them. We are both aspergian but our neurology is different. Just because two people share the same diagnosis does not make their neurology identical. I was not trying to imply that you are not on the spectrum by asking you to respect my neurology. I was not implying anything by it other than exactly what I said: please respect my neurology. It differs from yours in that respect and I would like you not to treat me as deficient because of that.</p>
<p>Perhaps your ability to read the extra things like jokes is also a disability when you read extra implications into my words that were not there? I respect your neurology that reads things into words and I am happy to explain what I did or didn&#8217;t mean if you see more meaning in my words than I put there. I would never tell you to &#8220;lighten up&#8221; or &#8220;darken up&#8221; because you add extra connotations to the things I say. Please give me the same respect when I see fewer connotations in the things you say than you have put there.</p>
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		<title>By: Sparrow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sparrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 03:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had no problem with the lecture; I appreciate it when others explain things to me that I don&#039;t understand. 

I was not attempting to cause you to feel guilt. If you are interpreting my words as an effort to give you guilt, maybe you did something that you feel guilty about and are reading that into what I have said? If so, please don&#039;t do things to me that make you feel guilty. It isn&#039;t nice to me, whether I am able to grasp that you have intentionally wronged me or not. I did not believe you had done anything out of intentional cruelty, rather out of ignorance and following social norms that are inherently cruel but rarely questioned.

It&#039;s fine that you were making a joke and I&#039;m glad that some people were able to enjoy that. 

My problem is with phrases like &quot;lighten up&quot; or &quot;you can&#039;t take a joke&quot; -- these phrases rarely have a kind intent and are most often &quot;bully phrases.&quot; I don&#039;t like them and have had them used as bludgeons against me too many times. I&#039;m sure I&#039;m not the only aspie with that experience.

I do not need to &quot;lighten up.&quot; I can both take and make a joke. I am fine the way I am and do not need someone else telling me that I am defective and need to change the way I am when I am not harming others or acting like a bully. Please do not use language that indicates that I am defective just because I say what I mean and mean what I say and approach others as if they have said what they meant as well. 

I was not trying to offend you by reading your words to mean what they said. It was a sign of respect. I do not deserve to be told that I have to &quot;lighten up&quot; because I can&#039;t see something. Would you tell a blind person to &quot;lighten up&quot; because they didn&#039;t see you making a hand gesture that changed the meaning of your words? Would you tell a person in a wheelchair to &quot;lighten up&quot; because they couldn&#039;t come to a birthday party at the top of a flight of stairs? Please don&#039;t tell me to &quot;lighten up&quot; because I thought you meant what you said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had no problem with the lecture; I appreciate it when others explain things to me that I don&#8217;t understand. </p>
<p>I was not attempting to cause you to feel guilt. If you are interpreting my words as an effort to give you guilt, maybe you did something that you feel guilty about and are reading that into what I have said? If so, please don&#8217;t do things to me that make you feel guilty. It isn&#8217;t nice to me, whether I am able to grasp that you have intentionally wronged me or not. I did not believe you had done anything out of intentional cruelty, rather out of ignorance and following social norms that are inherently cruel but rarely questioned.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s fine that you were making a joke and I&#8217;m glad that some people were able to enjoy that. </p>
<p>My problem is with phrases like &#8220;lighten up&#8221; or &#8220;you can&#8217;t take a joke&#8221; &#8212; these phrases rarely have a kind intent and are most often &#8220;bully phrases.&#8221; I don&#8217;t like them and have had them used as bludgeons against me too many times. I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;m not the only aspie with that experience.</p>
<p>I do not need to &#8220;lighten up.&#8221; I can both take and make a joke. I am fine the way I am and do not need someone else telling me that I am defective and need to change the way I am when I am not harming others or acting like a bully. Please do not use language that indicates that I am defective just because I say what I mean and mean what I say and approach others as if they have said what they meant as well. </p>
<p>I was not trying to offend you by reading your words to mean what they said. It was a sign of respect. I do not deserve to be told that I have to &#8220;lighten up&#8221; because I can&#8217;t see something. Would you tell a blind person to &#8220;lighten up&#8221; because they didn&#8217;t see you making a hand gesture that changed the meaning of your words? Would you tell a person in a wheelchair to &#8220;lighten up&#8221; because they couldn&#8217;t come to a birthday party at the top of a flight of stairs? Please don&#8217;t tell me to &#8220;lighten up&#8221; because I thought you meant what you said.</p>
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		<title>By: DonkeyBuster</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 01:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lecturing someone because you don&#039;t get the joke is not respectful, and our neurology is not different so using that as a guilt trip or power play isn&#039;t going to work. I just happen to be an Aspie with a sense of humor and I&#039;ve noticed some Aspies are very literal. James says he&#039;s a literal Aspie, so I won&#039;t make jokes here anymore. But just so&#039;s you know, some other Aspies did get the humor. (the LOL and the long extended words, the reference to the 50&#039;s were all clues).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lecturing someone because you don&#8217;t get the joke is not respectful, and our neurology is not different so using that as a guilt trip or power play isn&#8217;t going to work. I just happen to be an Aspie with a sense of humor and I&#8217;ve noticed some Aspies are very literal. James says he&#8217;s a literal Aspie, so I won&#8217;t make jokes here anymore. But just so&#8217;s you know, some other Aspies did get the humor. (the LOL and the long extended words, the reference to the 50&#8242;s were all clues).</p>
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		<title>By: Sparrow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sparrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 22:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please don&#039;t tell me to &quot;lighten up.&quot; I get enough of that kind of talk from NTs.

Please find a way to express yourself to me that is respectful of my neurology. Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please don&#8217;t tell me to &#8220;lighten up.&#8221; I get enough of that kind of talk from NTs.</p>
<p>Please find a way to express yourself to me that is respectful of my neurology. Thank you.</p>
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