Diagnosis
Books make a big thing about getting diagnosed. If you believe what you read, then getting a diagnosis for an Autism Spectrum Disorder is a very important and positive step.
Is this true? The books are almost invariably written by people without autism, so why would they be such a great expert on this?
I’m a little troubled, and I’m going through a round of self-questioning on the topic.
Should I get a formal diagnosis? Should I go and see my GP and try to obtain a diagnosis that way, or should I see someone privately? What would a diagnosis mean for my work? Would it change my relationship with my employer? Would it change the relationship with my wife? How about with other people I know? If any of my relationships were changed by a diagnosis would that be a force for good or not?
There are a lot of questions that the books don’t answer. Indeed, the AS books I’ve read don’t really tackle questions like the above much at all, which is a shame because ultimately those of us wondering about diagnosis need to know the answers to questions like these in order to make a rational decision.
What do I think?
My thoughts all boil down to one statement, which makes it difficult for me to choose a path forward:
Autism is poorly understood in the UK.
Various articles I’ve read on the Internet over the course of the last year (sorry, no specific references for you) suggest that getting a diagnosis here in the UK via the NHS (National Health Service) and your GP (family doctor) isn’t easy. I’ve read of people being told not to be so ridiculous or being asked why on earth they would want to get diagnosed in the first place. This really does highlight just how far behind some other countries the general level of understanding surrounding the Autism Spectrum is here in the UK. If some GPs believe that you can’t possibly have Asperger’s simply because you managed to turn up at their surgery and ask for a diagnosis, then we have a very long way to go on the education front.
If I choose the NHS route, then I have to go to my GP’s surgery extremely well armed, and prepared for a fight. I also need to consider whether a formal NHS diagnosis would serve me best. If I choose the NHS route, then my permanent health record will forever more state that I have Asperger’s. I will be formally classed as disabled in the eyes of the state, and I will have to mention the condition when I go for new jobs, or apply for insurance. I’d even have to notify the DVLA (driver’s registration agency) about it.
Ah yes – jobs. If some doctors seem to have a lack of understanding of Asperger’s, how can I expect employers to view a diagnosis?
For reasons that I can’t really go into, telling my current employer could potentially lose me my job. It probably wouldn’t, mind you, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it led to me being told not to report for work, followed by a battery of tests before a decision was made as to whether I could return to work or not. This may sound draconian, but my current job requires a considerable amount of vetting (with good reason) for everyone that does it. I’ve already had to have my depression in recent years considered, with a statement collected from my family doctor to support my case.
Here in the UK we have laws that intend to prevent job discrimination against people with disabilities. This is a good thing, and I’m sure it has led to a great many people with disabilities getting more fulfilling jobs. But there are, of course ways around laws like this. Consider this:
After a series of interviews, a company narrows down potential job applicants to two. Both interviewed well, and both could do the job well. The employer knows that one of them has Asperger’s, and having read up on the condition, understands that it affects the applicant in a number of ways, including their ability to interact with colleagues and sometimes their ability to produce work under stress. Would you blame the employer for not choosing the candidate with Asperger’s? I wouldn’t. The employer would be well within their rights to take the candidate without Asperger’s, despite employment laws. If the Asperger’s candidate was clearly the best for the role, well that’s a different and tricky matter…
I could, of course decide not to tell any potential new employer that I have a disability. My Asperger’s brain can see the attraction of this, but doesn’t like it one bit. Not telling would be fibbing, and that ultimately gets you into trouble, doesn’t it? In my view, any employer of mine has a legitimate right to know about any illness or other condition that might adversely impact my work. That’s fair. Not telling them really does feel like starting off the working relationship on completely the wrong foot.
Interestingly, my current state of knowing but not having a formal diagnosis sits a lot easier on my shoulders. I don’t feel like I have to tell anyone – like in some way not having a formal diagnosis means that I don’t have the condition. Except of course that I know beyond all reasonable doubt that I do have AS – I’m just missing the piece of paper from someone qualified to make a judgement to confirm it. The hypocrite in me makes an appearance once more.
If an NHS-funded diagnosis would lead to a formal record of disability and a responsibility to tell employers, what would happen if I went for a private diagnosis?
I’d get a piece of paper telling me what I already knew. What I then did with this piece of paper would be completely up to me. I wouldn’t have to tell my GP about it, and hence it wouldn’t have to go on my health record. Would I need to tell my employer? A difficult question, and one that I’m not sure I have a good answer for right now.
My wife’s view regarding my AS and diagnosis is one of worry. Over the last year we have talked about AS and what it means for me (and us) a fair bit. As my understanding of how it affects me has improved, so in time has hers. Being the partner of someone with AS must be difficult. It must be hard to conceive how the person can appear on the surface to be so normal, yet inside they are quite different.
My wife worries that my pursuit – with or without formal diagnosis – of AS will lead me to ‘giving up’. What she means by this is that she worries that I’ll stop acting ‘normal’ – that in some way learning about AS will change my ability to interact with the world. This feels very alien and illogical to me, yet I’ve read very similar accounts of these worries elsewhere, so I take it to be a quite normal neurotypical point of view.
I think, perhaps, that my wife is starting to see just how much of my presentation to the world is an act. Will I stop acting just because I now understand that it is an act? No. Will there be times that I choose not to act to the degree that I have done in the past? Perhaps – and I don’t see that as a negative thing. Learning about and embracing AS is teaching me that it is OK to be who I really am. I don’t have to act like someone that I’m not if I don’t want to – and yes, that is most likely the sort of phrase that scares my wife. But you know what? I do still want to interact with the world, and so I still act. If I didn’t put on my act, I’d have trouble interacting with anyone other than those that know me very well. I’d also have to spend an inordinate amount of time explaining to everyone I met that I was unusual because I had AS, and that no, it was nothing for them to be worried about. I don’t want to live my life like that, so whilst I may choose on occasion to drop my act and just be me, that will be the exception, rather than the norm.
If I’m not going to drop my act around people I know, would I need to tell them I was formally diagnosed with Asperger’s? Perhaps not. Would I feel uncomfortable if they didn’t know? Maybe yes. As I wrote above, though, telling people may be a lot of work for very little gain, and I’m not sure I want to entertain that.
Would I like people to know? Yes. And no.
I would dearly love people to understand that I was autistic and to make little allowances here and there for me to make my life easier. I’d love to be in a position where I could act a little less around people other than those closest to me. I fear the reality of that situation is a long way off. People in the UK simply don’t understand autism right now, and are often naturally suspicious of a condition that they can’t immediately see. I suspect that opening up to people would cause me considerable pain due to unexpected and sometimes negative reactions.
So where does this leave me? Without a definitive answer as to whether a diagnosis is a good idea or not.
A formal NHS diagnosis would buy me some peace with the world, but it wouldn’t make the world treat me any better. Indeed, it could potentially cost me my job, and make it more difficult for me to get a new one. It could cause alienation with people that don’t understand autism or who can’t buy into a condition that they can’t immediately see. Would the less-formal private diagnosis buy me as much peace but without the other side effects? I doubt it.
Yet there is something about obtaining a formal diagnosis that is about negotiating peace with the world. I’ve not fitted in thus far in life, but now I know why. Getting a piece of paper with that diagnosis on may be me formally saying that I accept that I know why I have never fitted in. Obtaining that peace holds a huge amount of attraction to me.
It feels like there is no middle ground here – either you go the whole distance, getting formally diagnosed, being open with everyone about it and accepting the consequences of that, or you don’t pursue diagnosis at all.
It feels like I’m being urged to jump off a cliff on the understanding that I’ll be able to fly. I want so very much to be able to fly that I almost believe what I’m being told.
I want so much to go to my GP and ask him for a formal diagnosis.
But I haven’t made an appointment.
Maybe that says it all.
I would love to hear your thoughts on this tricky subject.
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Rachel on September 9th, 2009 Rachel(Quote)
I very much understand the desire to get a formal diagnosis. When I figured out that I had Asperger’s, there was no doubt in my mind that I was right. The problem was finding a specialist who shared my insight.
Luckily, I did. I was glad to find him, because I needed a third party to see me properly. It wasn’t enough for me that my husband could see what I was talking about. I needed a neutral third party to see it. I think it had to do with feeling invisible for most of my life. For once, I wanted someone out there in the world to focus in on me and get it right.
Now, I have an autism-literate therapist who can see very clearly that I’m autistic, and somehow, that gives me even more peace of mind. It’s not rational, I know, but the desire to be seen on my own terms goes very deep in me.
If you want to get a formal diagnosis, I’d go the private route. Getting an NHS diagnosis takes so much out of your hands. If you go the private route, you can make up your mind that you’re doing it for your own personal reasons, and that you can disclose the diagnosis to whom you want, when you want. Given how much we Aspies feel like we’re living in a mystifying world, I think it’s prudent to maintain control of the information until you know what you want to do with it.
James on September 9th, 2009 James(Quote)
Rachel,
Thanks for the advice – it really helps.
Typing “autism literate therapist” yorkshire into Google draws a complete blank.
If you want to see something funny, go to http://www.google.co.uk and type “autism literate therapist” uk. Try it and you’ll see what I mean.
I think you put it very well when you say that you need someone else to see and understand your autism. I think that I too would find some peace from that.
So. Maybe it’s time to start doing a more serious search for the right person to diagnose me.
And thank you for mentioning being invisible. I really must write something about that one day – there is plenty I could say.
James
Rachel on September 9th, 2009 Rachel(Quote)
ROTFLMAO!!! The only result is one of my blog posts!
I also tried searching “AS-literate therapist” uk and the only results were two of my blog posts.
Sigh.
I see what you’re up against. Maybe you need a vacation in the States? I know three very good, autism-literate therapists within an hour’s drive of my house. And did I mention that we have lots of room here? And that we’d feed you? And that when the leaves change color in October, it’s spectacular?
James on September 10th, 2009 James(Quote)
Rachel,
What a fantastically generous offer. I never expected a response like that.
Whilst it is an idea that I will mull over, I suspect it’s not practical. We’ll see.
James
p.s. I’ve sent you an email with a bit more in it than felt appropriate in this response.
Jake on September 10th, 2009 Jake(Quote)
James,
If you are in the Yorkshire area then perhaps Digby Tantam of the University of Sheffield and the Dilemma Consultancy may be able to help you with diagnosis (should you decide to pursue that option):
http://www.shef.ac.uk/scharr/sections/mh/cscr/staff/dt.html
http://www.dilemmaconsultancy.org/consultant-psychiatrists/digby-tantam.html
For my part, I have been pretty certain for the past couple of years that I have Asperger’s but have only recently come to the decision to begin seeking a formal diagnosis. I have reached a point in life where certain issues (depression, anxiety, lack of social skills, obsession with detail and perfection, inability to see the bigger picture etc.) are seriously effecting my progress as a mature student.
Jake
James on September 11th, 2009 James(Quote)
Hi Jake,
Nice to see another unfamiliar name here. I hope you find the site useful.
I’m certainly finding your comment useful – you’ve short-circuited my research by providing me with an extremely promising lead.
That you so much for that,
James
Jake on September 11th, 2009 Jake(Quote)
Hi James,
I hope it’s of some help. I was given the name via an excellent NHS councilor who had a good understanding of Asperger’s. I also happen to study at the UoS. I have yet to make contact myself, but then procrastination is another one of my issues…
Everybody’s situation is unique and potentially open to change. Two years ago I was entirely happy with (and greatly relieved by) a self-diagnosis. Fast forward to today and my situation, and needs, have changed considerably.
I only came across your blog recently (you seem to be amazingly productive!) but I’m sure I’ll be sticking around.
Jake
Adelaide on September 10th, 2009 Adelaide(Quote)
Hello James!
I think there’s a middle ground.
Lots of people I know are self-diagnosed and peer-confirmed (Autism Network International style) and lots of other people have professional diagnostics. It is a matter of WHEN.
The concept we are probably looking for … there’s something of a difference between being aware and being literate, that isn’t semantics only. So we would probably find ‘autism aware therapist’ or whatever profession we wanted to type in.
James on September 10th, 2009 James(Quote)
Hi Adelaide,
Good to have you on board – I hope you’ll stick around.
Yes – I need to do some proper research. The search phrases I mentioned just happened to be the first couple I tried, and were based on the words that Rachel had used. I stopped there, because the results were amusing (The results were two pages – one from Rachel’s blog and one from mine).
Are you on the spectrum? Are you self or professionally diagnosed?
James
Adelaide on September 10th, 2009 Adelaide(Quote)
Well, James, I have acquired brain injury (from the age of 3) and a hearing impairment in my right ear. And in 2006 I received a diagnostic of bipolar disorder after a psychotic episode. That is another tale. (I tend to be very tender about that, the way you are about your Asperger’s). This is the first time in 20 years I had been to a psychiatrist (20 years from when I was a little girl: the 1987 stock market crash, within the week).
What is it like when you laugh and/or are amused?
I tend to be very out there when I laugh. And otherwise express my amusement.
And I don’t know that the spectrum is as poorly understood in the UK as it is in some other nations across the water. I thought the best country to really ‘get’ autism would be Norway. This is on the grounds of a conference in 2007 which I didn’t get to go to. And closely followed by Scandiavian countries like Denmark (and maybe Finland: ask David Andrews about this). Australia and New Zealand are getting better. Canada is about the same as Britain. And that’s most of the Anglosphere I can think of.
James on September 11th, 2009 James(Quote)
Hi Adelaide,
I find it very difficult to control my laugh reflex. If I find something to be amusing, I laugh out loud.
As I work in IT, and spend most of my working day in front of a bank of computers in an office, my laughing is often caused by something I’ve seen on the Internet. When new people sit near me, I can often sense their bewilderment at me sniggering away at something they can’t see, and that I don’t share with them. Those who have sat near me for any length of time don’t seem to notice any more – they grow accustomed to my ways.
Whilst I didn’t say it in the article, I’m sure there are many countries out there where understanding of ASDs is worse than in the UK. The US does seem to do considerably better than the UK, however.
Soph on September 10th, 2009 Soph(Quote)
I’ve decided not to go for a diagnosis. The only thing about me that I can’t control is my tendency to forget things and sometimes not be able to speak properly. I think I can pass that off with “I think I’m a bit dyslexic.”
In my line of work an autism diagnosis would be the end of me. I also find that people who do think I’m autistic sometimes talk to me like I’m slightly retarded.
James on September 11th, 2009 James(Quote)
Soph,
I fully understand and support your choice not to get diagnosed.
As I hope the article showed, going for a diagnosis is not something that I’m finding easy to make a decision on. It has taken me a year to reach this point, and I clearly still have a good many misgivings about the whole process.
My stance just a few months ago was that I didn’t a therapist to tell me something that I already knew. Well, that view has clearly changed. I now feel strongly that I need someone with suitable qualifications to confirm to me what I already know.
I don’t know what you do for a living, so it is hard for me to pass comment on whether I think it would damage your career. You should of course trust your own judgement on this.
I’ve never had anyone (to my knowledge) treat me like I was autistic. I can well imagine that some people treat those they see as autistic as being retarded, however, which is a real shame. If those are work people, then that really could make life difficult.
eileen on September 11th, 2009 eileen(Quote)
I am at a similar place. I want a diagnosis mainly so family and friends will believe me. Almost my whole life I’ve tried to get people to believe something is different about me. I get blown off every time because 1)I am smart and 2)I am able to learn just about any skill I put my mind to. I want them to understand the things that they dislike about me happen for a reason and not because I a bad at being a person. I’ve thought about lying and saying I have an official diagnosis, but that sort of lying doesn’t sit well with me, either.
I could also use an official diagnosis for things like help with understanding anything legal or financial or having to do with insurance or credit …. that sort of thing I can’t grasp and I tend to avoid it or ignore it. There are just some areas of my life where I could definitely use therapy or assistance of some sort. A medical order for massage and other sensory therapy would be really helpful, too.
Adelaide on September 12th, 2009 Adelaide(Quote)
Hi Eileen!
Sometimes 2 can cancel out 1 in the eyes of the beholder. (In which case it’s how you learn and the effort it takes/took. I think lots of people have problems with ‘no’ effort or ‘lots more effort’.). And just because someone is smart, doesn’t mean that they can learn everything. And certain types of ‘smart’ are valued more than others. Unfortunately, there is a lot of snobbery about, as I am sure you might have experienced.
It’s good to be shrewd about what you can get out of the diagnosis. Especially the more tangible things that people tend to believe (and the massage for sensory therapy is a bonus. There might be some good people in your community into which you can tap). What other sensory therapy were you thinking of?
Hopefully with the legal and financial things … what is your trouble? Is that they are very enmeshed social systems and depend on a lot of handshaking? They seem to evade/elude many people.
Loved the things you wished you could say. Made me think of Slavoj Zizek and how he says that language is violence. Language, not speech only. And it’s clear that music is very important in your life.
eileen on September 12th, 2009 eileen(Quote)
Adelaide,
I had a little trouble understanding what you wrote.
“Sometimes 2 can cancel out 1 in the eyes of the beholder. (In which case it’s how you learn and the effort it takes/took. I think lots of people have problems with ‘no’ effort or ‘lots more effort’.).”
I suppose there is snobbery about types of “smartness”. You are right – there are lots of things I can’t learn but people assume if I am so quick with this and that, then I am merely holding out on them with something else. I can’t tell you how awful I’ve been made to feel over that. Some days I say, “I don’t know”, almost as much as I breathe.
I’m not sure what other sensory therapy would be good. I know my skin can’t get enough stimulation. I can’t even fully describe how beneficially massage is to me. I know it is the only time I feel completely OK. LOL Maybe it is just so intoxicating that I am unaware of anything else.
Legal stuff, etc – I can’t take in terminology and facts easily. In fact, it is very very difficult. That, and the fact that that sort of thing (contracts and policies, for example), tends to be very nested. It is far too much information all the way around.
Music is a huge thorn in my side. I plan to write about it eventually.
Peter on October 7th, 2009 Peter(Quote)
I live in the US. Your description of the diagnosis process is different. Like you, I finally learned about AS as an adult. I have received confirmation of my AS, but nowhere is there any formal record of this that could be found by employer. (although I think Obama is working it…. he scares me bad).
I also want to comment on your wife’s fear that a diagnosis will give you some reason to stop acting. I agree with her. I have less and less incentive to act anymore. I’m tired.
James on October 7th, 2009 James(Quote)
Hi Peter,
Welcome, and I hope you find the writing here useful from time to time.
Here in the UK, employers can and do on occasion seek medical references from family doctors, as do the likes of insurance companies when you apply for a new policy. They don’t get to see the medical record itself, just to ask the doctor questions as to whether there is anything significant.
How would they react to discovering an autism diagnosis? I dunno. Would their questions of the doctor even lead that being divulged? Again, I’m not sure.
As for acting, well, my levels of stress and anxiety have a bearing on how much acting I can do on any given day, before I feel over-stimulated. I do still want to interact with others, and I understand that to do that requires me to act, at least to a degree.
Maybe over time I’ll simply open up a little more to people, and less acting will be needed over all. Only time will tell, I guess.
James
Peter on October 7th, 2009 Peter(Quote)
James, couldn’t sleep last and spent a few hours reading your blog. Good writing. I really get a lot out of AS blogs vs the info from NT’s.
Have you seen this one? http://www.freewebs.com/aspiefrommaine/growingupwithas.htm
I would never tell my employer about my AS. I don’t think it’s a recognized disability in the US. Disclosure would not get me fired, but it would seriously impair my effectiveness.
I work as as software developer and I believe my AS is an asset for my work, like you, I don’t want to be “cured”. Not so helpful in personal relationships though….
I totally agree with you that I am glad I was not diagnosed as a child, I coped and did okay for myself. With special treatment, I’d have had way too many excuses for failure.
Having got the AS diagnosis just recently, I now have to work out a set of disclosure rules for dating. I assume it’s fair to disclose at some point, certainly not on a first date, but when after that? I need a rule book….
James on October 8th, 2009 James(Quote)
Peter,
Thanks for the positive comments about the blog.
In lots of ways the blog would be just as important to me if no-one read it, but I feel wonderfully lucky that others are reading and often agreeing with what I say. It helps me to see that my experiences of the world are not unique, odd, or even all that unusual.
I’m hoping that once I’ve received my formal diagnosis, that I’ll be given access to help in formulating better ways of doing things, through CBT or some such. My doctor certainly seems open to this idea, so I’m keeping my fingers crossed.
You are right – life with AS would be so much easier with a rule book! “Oh, THAT’S what I should be saying…”
James
Peter on October 8th, 2009 Peter(Quote)
or the source code…
Maybe when face recognition software improves, we can use it to read facial expressions for us to alert us that there is more going on than what is being said out loud. I like technical solutions!
Reading blogs from others with AS is enlightening. Those without AS, with natural people skills can’t comprehend not having them. I imagine it would be like telling to someone who can ride a bicycle to pretend they can’t. Once one has the balance, they can’t imagine not having it.
I have incredible trouble with the morning greetings and the “god bless you”‘s (people should not be getting me blessed without my permission) (and impose on me an obligation to say “thank you”) and rhetorical questions and eye contact.
Working in IT is one of the safest places to work.
James on October 9th, 2009 James(Quote)
What an inventive solution, Peter!
You should patent that idea before someone else does!
I agree that working in IT is one of the safest choices that I could have made regarding work. It happened more by luck than judgement for me, however.
I like your bicycle balance analogy – it is one of the closest to how things are that I’ve heard to date. I find putting concepts like that into words – even through the use of analogy – to be somehow elusive, and that they never quite express what I meant.
Anna on October 9th, 2009 Anna(Quote)
Peter,
A survival guide for people with Asperger syndrome, by Marc Segar
http://www-users.cs.york.ac.uk/~alistair/survival/
Peter on October 9th, 2009 Peter(Quote)
Thanks. I’ve seen that site. While some of it may be helpful to a very affected teenager, it’s really not helpful to an adult.
Over my 50+ years, I’ve learned most of the coping and scripts and plays I need to do to get along. Problem is, I’ve lost the incentive to play anymore. I’m tired of acting, it really is easier to just live alone on a huge plot of land. All I’d need is a nearby grocery store, broadband and USP/FedX delivery!
Now I just need that huge plot of land….
Anna on October 9th, 2009 Anna(Quote)
I see. What you say about being too tired to act anymore reminds me of similar thoughts I have read, I think it was here
http://www.aspergerjourneys.com and here http://autism-fallingintoplace.blogspot.com/ but if not there, I have certainly read similar sentiments, even if I can’t remember where!
Peter on October 9th, 2009 Peter(Quote)
I started out in electronics and then learned software development on my own as a hobby, now it supports me. I had no plan…. Looking back, I naturally gravitated to technology for the logic and orderly-ness of it.
JustInspired on February 22nd, 2010 JustInspired(Quote)
I don’t know that a formal diagnosis would help me in any way. I was just happy to find out that there was an explanation for the way I felt, acted and didn’t fit it anywhere.
In December 2008 my (then 4 year old) son Justin was formally diagnosed. My wife and I were present and after a while the specialist looked directly at me and said “I see where he gets it from”.
By then I had already done loads of research on the net and she just confirmed what I already knew.
I have a very close relationship with my son – in many ways we are exactly the same and we can relate to each other.
It would seem that many aspies are in one IT field or another. I work from home doing computer repair and web design.
All the best,
Julian